Bonsoir,
L’update est réservée aux pledgeur.
Quelqu’un pourrait-il l’afficher ici pour que tout le monde puisse en profiter ?
Merci d’avance.
Hi everyone!
It’s been a little time since we have posted the last update on the project but we are still active! Some of you asked us why we didn’t post an update sooner, well it is simply because we've had nothing new to share and decided not to spam your inboxes until we had some consistent news.
This week we received samples of the coins, the tray and the painted figurines, and now that we know more, we can give you informations on the status.
The coins
As we showed before, the coin's design was finalized and we’ve now starting producing them in a mass production process to make sure the quality will follow while produced at a larger scale. We are happy to say that they look great!
You can check them out in the picture below.
The Tray
When we received the tray sample we saw that the design was not perfectly fitting for all of the components. Indeed, some figurines are bigger than they were “in theory”, if the height is the same for all of them, the volume can change depending on the models.
We changed the tray design in order for all the figurines to fit in their dedicated spaces. In order to do that, we’ve resized the box to make the tray larger but the good news is that we could therefore also enlarged the board!
This small twist is turning out to become a good news! The box will be bigger than planned and the board will also be enlarged!
The new sizes:
>> Box will be 36,5 x 36,5 x 7 cm (centimeters)
>> Board will be 1,05 m (meter) x 35 cm (centimeters)
Once we receive the new version of the tray, we will show you the result.
The figurines
First of all, we would kindly like to ask all pledgers that are saying that we did not respected the initial estimated delivery time, to keep in mind that when we started the Tokaido CE campaign last year, we weren’t planning on delivering painted figurines.
We added this extra stretch goal during the KS as a response to pledgers requests and to the campaign success. The painting of the figurines is what is taking the most time and that is why we are behind the original schedule: offering painted figurines implied adding of a lot of production steps that cannot be overlooked. It is challenging both because it wasn’t originally planned and because we are offering something new, with no equal on the actual market: 35 high quality pre-painted figurines for 115$. Reaching the highest quality with that type of price range implies a lot of time spent working on production process, to make it happen.
Painted Samples
As you know we were waiting for new painted samples in order to see where we stand on the production status.
We received the new painted samples this week, and even though they are better than the ones the factory previously sent us, they are still not reaching the quality goal we defined.
Every time we’ve received a sample that was not reaching our expectations, we asked for changes and corrections. Each time, the factory had to create new masks, try them, correct them, try them again etc. This process takes a lot of time, and that is why we can wait for a long time to receive new samples.
Even if we rejected the last batch, the painting work is going in the right direction. We are getting closer to what we want as a final quality basic paint (with no stamps and no washes). The factory is currently handling modifications in order to sharpen the quality of the details.
Because our current factory is taking more time than we hoped to deliver the quality we agreed on, we’ve started to work with 2 other factories in order to speed up the process. There are now 3 factories working on the mini’s painting. And they will soon be sending us several batches of painted samples.
Rejected samples
In order to satisfy some requests and to show you the evolution of the painting work, we decided to display pictures of the different samples we received and rejected along the way.
Important: All the following samples have been rejected for insufficient quality, they are not the figurines that will be in the final game.
Step 1
What was wrong?
>>The plastic used was skin color whereas it should have been white and then painted with skin color paint.
>> Some parts of the figurines weren’t not painted (the crate part on the back of the merchant, his shoe soles, eyes, eyebrows etc.)
>>The paint is generally too rough, with colors overlapping each other.
Step 2
What improved?
>>The parts that were unpainted were painted.
>>The plastic was white and then painted with skin color paint.
What was wrong?
>>The paint was applied too roughly in general, with overlapping areas, and final render too vulgar.
>> The colors were also too flashy.
Step 3
What improved?
>>The general quality of the paint, we can see more details that have been sharpened. >>The paint has been applied more precisely.
>>Colors are more accurate.
What was wrong?
>>Even if the paint is more precise, it was still not close enough.
>>Few details are still too rough.
Step 4
What improved?
>>The general quality of paint.
What was wrong?
>>Some details are not applied precisely enough yet.
>> Absence of additional washes effects. Some of the models will have stamps (not the two models shown) and those were not applied properly, making the render too rough.
With this last sample we are getting really closer to what we want to obtain as a final result but we are still missing the final sharpening of details, the stamps and the extra washes effects that will finalize the minis. All 3 factories are working very hard on delivering new painted samples soon, and we will keep you updated when we receive them.
We are getting there, slowly but surely!
Have a great weekend,
Kindly,
Doria
Les pièces sont très sympas et la volonté de faire des figurines peintes nickel chrome est vraiment sympa. Maintenant, c’est vrai que ça fait long. Quant à la place pour les cartes sleevées, j’ai cru lire que le thermoformage était plus grand que ce montrait la photo. Donc on peut espérer avoir la place pour ça aussi …
Pour les late pledgers, vous aviez déjà eu le son, voici l’image 
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Par contre, je vous laisse vous débrouillez pour les replacer aux bons endroits, parce qu’il ne faut déconner quand même. 
Merci!
Sacré update en effet!!
Tout cela prend une bonne tournure.
J’ai toujours hâte d’y jouer!
Doj dit:
Moi il y a quand même une chose qui me chagrine, c'est qu'ils n'ont pas pensé à intégrer des espaces pour cartes sleevées. Donc comme pour la VO, il faudra séparer les cartes du jeu ou enlever le thermo... ce qui est habituel pour la majorité des éditeurs utilisant les thermoformages hélas.
Il n'y a pas vraiment de cartes. Ce sont plutôt des tuiles, non?
Si y a des cartes mais pas besoin de les plastifier, elles ne tournent pas tant que ça, c’est pas un deckbuilding.
Le problème est que je fais partie de la famille des sleeveurs compulsifs. Dans la V1 de Tokaido, les cartes étaient assez fragiles. Maintenant fragile ou pas je sleeve quand même tous mes jeux
Harrycover dit:et surtout arrêter d'être vilain et de dire que le projet est en retard, c'est de notre faute si le projet est en retard fallait pas qu'on prenne de version peinte, !!First of all, we would kindly like to ask all pledgers that are saying that we did not respected the initial estimated delivery time, to keep in mind that when we started the Tokaido CE campaign last year, we weren’t planning on delivering painted figurines.
We added this extra stretch goal during the KS as a response to pledgers requests and to the campaign success. The painting of the figurines is what is taking the most time and that is why we are behind the original schedule: offering painted figurines implied adding of a lot of production steps that cannot be overlooked. It is challenging both because it wasn’t originally planned and because we are offering something new, with no equal on the actual market: 35 high quality pre-painted figurines for 115$. Reaching the highest quality with that type of price range implies a lot of time spent working on production process, to make it happen.
mon dieu !!
C'est.. comment dire...
ah non. Y'a pas de mot.
Ah… Quand même… La fallait oser…
+1
la com de Fun forge est surréaliste lol…
Entre ca et les différents rappels des CGU …
Ça devient légèrement lourd …
C’est dommage qu’il y ait ce type de message à chaque fois. Comme la dernière fois avec les “Droits et devoirs” des Backers, ce genre de chose… Surtout qu’avec des SG balancés le second (ou troisième, je ne sais plus) jour de la campagne pour la peinture, ils vont pas nous faire gober que c’était pas prévu^^ Enfin bon…
EDIT : Grillé^^
Toujours est-il que les dernier échantillons me convenaient très bien. C’était propre et ça laissait la possibilité de finir soi même^^ J’ai peur que les détails soient bâclés. En tout cas, quand on jouera il faudra penser bien fort aux employés des 3 usines qui vont trimer pour qu’on puisse assouvir nos caprices. J’ai presque honte… Non, en fait carrément même. 
En plus je trouve que ces figurines pré peintes sont… Pas belles.
Nicowa dit:... Surtout qu'avec des SG balancés le second (ou troisième, je ne sais plus) jour de la campagne pour la peinture, ils vont pas nous faire gober que c'était pas prévu^^ Enfin bon...
C'est marrant internet ... tout laisse des traces ...
https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/27368?commentid=4418296#comment4418296
Daté du 04/02/14 soit plus de 20 jours avant le début du KS : elles étaient déjà prévues en tant que SG et déjà en pré-peint quand cela devait juste être une version digitale (chose abandonnée pour devenir une version collector à la place).
[Edit : j'ai édité pour préciser que c'était à l'époque pour la version digitale]
GuaW dit:Nicowa dit:... Surtout qu'avec des SG balancés le second (ou troisième, je ne sais plus) jour de la campagne pour la peinture, ils vont pas nous faire gober que c'était pas prévu^^ Enfin bon...
C'est marrant internet ... tout laisse des traces ...
https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/27368?commentid=4418296#comment4418296
Daté du 04/02/14 ... 20 jours avant le début du KS ...
Haha! Excellent! Merci d'étayer nos souvenirs!
effectivement, si ce n’est pas prendre les “clients” pour des lapins de 3 semaines
Moi ça me va le dernier update.
Ils communiquent. Ils semblent exigeants sur la qualité.
Je peux attendre une année, deux années si la qualité est au rendez-vous, cela ne me dérange pas tant que Fun Forge est transparent et nous fait part des obstacles rencontrés régulièrement.
Bref continuez comme ça.
soleilcos dit:Moi ça me va le dernier update.
Ils communiquent. Ils semblent exigeants sur la qualité.
Je peux attendre une année, deux années si la qualité est au rendez-vous, cela ne me dérange pas tant que Fun Forge est transparent et nous fait part des obstacles rencontrés régulièrement.
Bref continuez comme ça.
Là dessus pas de souci. C'est juste le fait d'être pris pour des jambons^^
Attendre ! Pas des années tout de même… j’aimerai y jouer de mon vivant à ce jeu